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Post n°695 pubblicato il 30 Settembre 2006 da magdalene57

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ciao Terza,

dici bene quando parli di terreno neutrale. ma di solito in un terreno neutrale si lavora per trovare veri accordi di convivenza e rispetto, in un terreno neutrale, i litiganti si fermano e seduti attorno ad un tavolo, con l'aiuto di altri, mettono giù un po' di regole.

tu mi sembri veramente impazzito in questi giorni. sembra una guerra personale a cui io francamente non voglio dare spazio ne da una parte ne dall'altra.
In questo potresti considerare con rispetto il fatto che l'altra parte non ha usato il mio terreno neutrale per attaccarti.

ora ... dato che sono io il capo di questo stato, e dato che credo ti stia venendo fuori ora quel famoso trauma che hai avuto quando sei nato.... voglio venirti incontro. proprio perchè ci sono cose a cui tengo: la libertà d'espressione e l'ironia ed il rispetto.

Ma altre di cui faccio veramente a meno: l'offesa.

qui potrai scrivere come terza, commentare i post come ti pare. non ho problemi ad essere considerata analfabeta,  può darsi sia vero.
Ma qui , su questo suolo non voglio sentir parlare di altri casi, m'hai sfinito.

per cui, ora cancellerò i commenti che parlano di eschimi e terrò gli altri, nel rispetto della MIA linea.

Io lo firmo questo trattato. se tu non lo firmi, sappi che io te lo farò rispettare...

amabilmemte, Margy

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TerzaPaginaPress
TerzaPaginaPress il 30/09/06 alle 10:26 via WEB
only..MIMOSA without Eskimo..ok.??.....ANSA N.Y.CITY 30 SEPT.2006..BLOGGERS -WARS IN ITALY..OR ONLY "BARZELLETTE'S" :-)..CENSURA E Chiudere i commenti? . The Wall Street Journal, Blogger Faces Lawsuit Over Comments Posted by Readers: In a legal case being watched closely by bloggers, an Internet company has sued the owner of a Web log for comments posted to his site by readers. Traffic-Power.com sued Aaron Wall, who maintains a blog on search engine optimization - tactics companies use to get themselves to appear higher in searches at Google, Yahoo and elsewhere - alleging defamation and publication of trade secrets. The suit, filed in a Nevada state court earlier this month, also listed as defendants several unnamed users of the blog. At issue are statements posted in the comments section of Mr. Wall’s blog, SEOBook.com. Many blogs allow readers to post comments, often anonymously, and Mr. Wall’s blog included several reader submissions that blasted tools sold by Traffic-Power.com. […]...TERZAPAGINAPRESS ANSWER: Inviato da CesareGiulio0 il 30/09/06 @ 09:40 via WEB Fighting For Bloggers' Rights! Aug 26[Update: The judge killed the immoral 100% bogus lawsuit, and thus I am no longer accepting donations. Thanks to everyone who helped me. If you would like to support free speech online please donate to EFF or Public Citizen. Optionally you may also want to read the EFF Legal Guide for Bloggers, Chilling Effects or CyberSLAPP, all of which are great resources.] Well Traffic Power just filed a civil lawsuit against me. I looked at many of the sites that were referenced in my comments, and it looks as though many of them were forced to remove their comments / content by Traffic Power, or decided to remove it on their own. A couple examples are SEO Consultants Traffic Power section and & SE Roundtable's post located here http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/000596.html As far back as June 4th, 2004 I removed a comment that I thought was offensive, and I thought generally I was keeping the content in bounds of any sort of legal limit. It is ok to have an opinion. It is ok for others to post their opinions. Since the initial time someone cold called me stating they were from Traffic Power the content has aged over a year and never once has Traffic Power attempted to contact me outside of blog comments, a cease and desist, and a lawsuit. Could you imagine being a client for a company that communicates like that? Had at any point in time Traffic Power made ANY LEGITIMATE ATTEMPT to tell me what specifically I or my site did wrong, I probably would have promptly removed it. Imagine if your company had trade secrets disclosed on a website that got around 100,000 pageviews a month. Would you wait a year to sue for trade secrets being disclosed? Would you fail to point them out specifically so that they may be quickly removed if they were legitimate trade secrets? Their lawyer has sorta gave me an ultimatum. Verbally he stated that if I removed ALL content related to Traffic Power from SEO Book.com that they would drop the suit. Currently I am drafting a request for a written statement, since verbal agreements do not override papers, and they already filed papers on me. I have not decided whether or not it was in by best interests to fight this yet. I have a bit of money, but not tons. I have a bit of time, but not tons. As far as potential upsides to proceeding with the legal ordeals: It would preserve the content others have wrote on my site. I would not go mangling the content of those who aided in making this site more complete and / or more useful. It would teach me a good amount about the legal system at a fairly young age. Few people heavily rely upon me and I have minimal living costs, so I have little to lose on that front. Especially since I am young enough and quick learning enough to where even if I had nothing I could still do well in a year anyhow. I hate to admit it, but I have for some odd reason always been more motivated to take action by negative influences such as incidents like this. It would be an ego stroke to win, although I am not sure what legitimate value that has, and there are much better and cheaper ways to get a good ego stroke. My posts rank well in search results, and it probably drives significant traffic to my website. That, in turn, may save a good number of businesses a significant amount of money. I already rank second for their lawyer's name, and if I beat them I am certain I could easily boost that ranking to #1. Others who were sued (it looks as though 5 people and 5 companies - although many of them might be people who commented on my site) would not need to go it alone. Traffic Power would probably realize that bullying and intimidation are not the solution to bad PR. The real solution is fixing the problems that cause the bad PR. Even if my site has it's information taken down there are plenty of other sites that have similar information posted to them. Unless their business model or client communications strategy change I can only guess that other sites will continue to post bad stuff. Since there is no specific information in the lawsuit it would probably get thrown out of court the first day. There are still blatently defamatory forums created about me. It seems a bit stupid for me to give in because they hired a lawyer when it is obvious that someone out there is doing far worse to me, and that anonymous third party promotes Traffic Power and lies blatently about me. I may be able to countersue, but I hear it is hard to sue companies working out of Las Vegas. That is the reason many telemarketing type companies are located in Nevada. I have some friends who are far richer than I who stated they may be willing to help cover associated legal costs. As far as potential downsides to proceeding with the legal ordeals: It would eat time that I could use to focus on productive and useful ideas, tools, marketing methods, and learning. There may be something worth suing for in the posts or comments. I am rather naive to the laws that govern such behavior. I do know that by me deleting and annotating the deletion of that one offensive post it shows that my intent was not purely evil or negative. It also helps show that if Traffic Power made any legitimate attempt to tell me specifically what was wrong they may have got a solution prior to them needlessly spending money talking to a lawyer. The lawsuit would eat money that I could invest, give to charity, or spend on better things. The Traffic Power story has died down, and it may make me look like a lamer to keep being involved in that story. When I asked for more information or specifics Max D. Spilka told me it was too volumous to state. Some of my legal friends have stated that too volumous usually means there is nothing there. Some of the opinions are fairly harsh, with some people stating things like: In my opinion, all trafficpower.com is is just a bunch of cheep everyday crooks. They should all be in jail. traffic-power.com called me today at 4:34am in the morning!!! What the F*@k ! They do not even check the time zones of who they are calling? I line in Hawaii .. Can anything be done to stop these people?!?! I also left the posts that were pro / for Traffic Power as well, while also noting that none of them ever listed a specific URL. For those who want to dig through the archives: here is the initial post I made about the time I was cold called by a person who stated they were representing Traffic Power. that post may have led to me being included in the bogus defamatory hate forums I noted here on this page, someone asked me why I am not suing them over the content which is on the fake forums this post notes that they may have changed names, as originally referenced by an SEO Consultants page that was later taken down. here I cover what I thought was a fake press reference to the situation recently they sent me a cease and desist order they also recently sued Traffic Power Sucks I am fairly certain I am probably just going to pull the content. Not so much for the legal reasons, but more for karma related ones, sorta like Nick's reasonings here. If you bring enough negative crap into your life then eventually you can't help but become it. Also, if Traffic Power did not exist, some other company would take that market position. This blog can not really help those people because I can't keep giving extended coverage to everything I do not think is good or my blog will just become a rant blog or whinge blog. I tried creating something that was free and more of a bottoms up thing for SEO when I was a bit more naive than I am today, but if fell flat on it's face because some people claimed it was a self promo maneuver, even though I registered it by proxy and tried to remove much of my personal bias from my writing. Ultimately though I am just an exceptionally small voice in an exceptionally crowded field. Recently O'Reilly even mentioned that one of my affiliates was a deceptive advertiser because they bought a link next to his cuban cigar link and had a footer affiliate link on their site. Danny Sullivan is one of the few people in this industry that has a credible voice outside of this industry. He is probably one of the few people who can set initiatives, bring things together, and change things. I am still a bit too young, naive, and not-so-business-savvy to pretend that what I do can in any way fill that sort of a role. I really don't think me actively highlighting one or a few specific companies really makes anything better in the grand scheme of things. If you posted comments to any of the prior posts please make sure you keep a copy for yourself if you want it, as the posts may be taken down soon. If you post comments to this page make sure you also post them on your own blog or website, as this post may be taken down soon. In the extended portion of the post is a rough copy of the "NOTICE! YOU HAVE BEEN SUED" notification. I am interested in your thoughts and comments.
 
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TerzaPaginaPress il 30/09/06 alle 11:37 via WEB
...e..a BILLIE..che TUTTI AMIAMO..Lanci-ATE se non fiori..pure PIETRE....:-) Ci sono parole ed azioni che sono come giavellotti: le lanci e stai lì a guardarle volare, in bilico su un piede solo, proprio come un lanciatore, cercando di deviarne la traiettoria con lievi cenni del capo, come se la speranza e lo sguardo potessero qualcosa. Ci solo lanci facili, quelli che ci vuole poco, ci sono le gaffes che ti scivolano di mano, lanci mirati, a caso, al buio, ad effetto, tesi o curvi, insomma di tutti i tipi. Poi ci sono quelli importanti, che ci metti tutta la volontà che hai, ti giochi tutto te stesso. Troppa forza a volte, spariscono alla vista, persi fra le nuvole, forse in un altro tempo ed un altro spazio. Sono attese deluse, speranze soffocate. Ma non è detto che non arrivino dove volevi, non è detto che non facciano centro, solo che forse (forse) non verrai mai a saperlo, perché nel frattempo hai lasciato il campo. E hai fatto bene.ISTINTI DISTINTI...( Vedi Margy come richiesto..ho commentato..con L'abito da Sera..quel che Piu' Ti/ci Piace..)
 
TerzaPaginaPress
TerzaPaginaPress il 30/09/06 alle 12:37 via WEB
AFFETTUOSITA' TRA BLOGGER..Inviato da magdalene57 il 30/09/06 @ 10:39 via WEB con grande rispetto e affetto, ti abbraccio. .. Inviato da Billieholiday il 30/09/06 @ 11:45 via WEB Sai bene Cara Margy che il rispetto e l'affetto sono reciproci. Grazie (Rispondi) Requiem aeternam dona eis, Domine, et lux perpetua luceat eis...
 
 
magdalene57
magdalene57 il 30/09/06 alle 14:39 via WEB
Requiem aeternam dona eis, Domine, et lux perpetua luceat eis... te, e tua sorellina
 
   
TerzaPaginaPress
TerzaPaginaPress il 30/09/06 alle 15:08 via WEB
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magdalene57 il 30/09/06 alle 15:07 via WEB
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